1. If the body is knit flat, the sleeves are probably not knit in the round.
2. While not precisely dropped sleeves, they are not set-in, either - too flat at the top for set-in sleeves.
3. The coller is definitely folded over and stitched down.
4. The flat stitch is purled (i.e. the wrong side of stockinette stitch)
5. Waistband and cuffs for a true Aran are probably twisted rib.
Good eye :)
1. Drat. I loathe seaming. Heh.
2. Hm. Do you know of a good source to find out more about these kinds of sleeves? Or would I do well to improvise using a traditional aran pattern?
4. Ooh. Good call.
1. Blackberry/trinity stitch is a cinch to seam, though
2. Try the traditional Aran pattern. Technically, I suppose, they are dropped sleeves, but the body's a little more fitted around the shoulders than I'm used to seeing in a true drop-sleeve Aran.
So I'm looking at the sleeves/side of the sweater, and I'm really thinking they must be set in somehow. The hint is that block of blackberry/trinity stitch ending and going back to purl along the side edge.
If the body were rectangular, as it would usually be for a drop sleeve, that change wouldn't have to happen, would it?
As close as I can tell, the Trinity stitch is the body, the purl section is part of the sleeve. If it was set in, that line bewteen the Trinity stitch and the purl wouldn't be as straight as it is.
But there seems to be a seam running down under the arm...
That just means it wasn't knit in the round. Drop sleeved garments will still have a seam down the side of the sweater and the sleeve, unless it's knit in the round.
Ah. Okay. Usually, when I think drop sleeve, I think a sleeve that is just a tube that comes out at a right angle from a rectangle. I never thought to give it little legs. Clever. :)
Clearly, you are seeing something there that I'm missing. I see a seam on the side of the sweater - the underpart of the sleeve isn't visible to me at all. Legs?
Right. I'm trying to figure out how that part of the sweater is part of the sleeve. The only way that makes sense is that there would be strips (the "little legs") that would be seamed together and straight up the sweater before stitched to the body.
Am I misunderstanding you?
That part of the sweater is part of the body. I'm thinking that there is somewhat of a decrease in the upper part of the body, but not necessarily the shaping that there would be for a set-in sleeve.
Ah! Okay. That makes more sense now. *blushes*
I wasn't explaining clearly - not your fault at all.
That flat background stitch looks kind of purl-y to be stockinette, but I am having trouble with the idea that it's garter stitch. Could it just be an illusion because he's wearing a dark shirt underneath? Could it be the "wrong side" of the stockinette?
Yeah, it looks like the purl side of stockinette to me. Isn't that generally what you do as a background to a cable? I'm no expert on cables, though I've done some.
Holy COW is that a busy sweater.
Yeah, I haven't really gotten into Aran knitting yet. Just done a couple vests and hats with cables, although I am working on Eris
right now. I'm currently drifting toward socks and lace, but I expect to swing back toward Arans later. :-)
That's really lovely.
I just finished my first cabled project (a scarf) a while back, and feel really happy and comfortable with them now. There's a hoodie (Mariah?) over on Knitty that's got my interest, but part of me just wants to go crazy with some fisherman's wool and give this a shot.
It would definitely be a worthy pursuit. ;-)
Hi, just found you mad lot with the same interests as me ;)
In hope of helping, I've done some more screen caps which might be able to add information (or not)
They should be at:http://www.flickr.com/photos/27247279@N00/
but I don't know if I've got my flikr account sorted right or not, so let me know if you see anything!
I only just got a chance to look at these. Awesome!
With some effort, I may be able to put something together for this...
i'm in trouble now, the boy just looked over my shoulder and said "ooh! make me that!" should stuck to the hat post ;)
2006-01-27 05:00 am (UTC)
Another tidbit of info.
I did a bit of digging and found the email for the lady in charge of the Firefly wardrobe. Told her what we were interested in. After about two weeks this is the reply I recieved:
the orginal sweater was taken from fox general
wardrobe and may have been made for the orgianl aliens
Hope this helps!
baast from craftster